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12809/Mumbai CSMT - Howrah Mail (Via Nagpur) (PT)
Other Names: Bombay Mail
मुम्बई छत्रपति शिवाजी महाराज टर्मिनस - हावड़ा मेल (नागपुर होकर)

BYT/Bhatapara --> HWH/Howrah Junction

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▪️ Departure from CSMT on 29.07.24 is diverted via Ib - Jharsuguda Road - Sambalpur - Bhadrak - Kharagpur ▪️ Departure from CSMT on 30.07.24 is cancelled ▪️Revised composition: SLR–1, GS–2, SL–5, PANTRY–1, 3E–3, 3A–6, 2A–2, 1A–1, EOG–1 with effect from 14 September 2024 Ex. CSMT
Tue Jul 30, 2024 (04:03PM)
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▪️ Departure from CSMT on 30.07.24 is cancelled ▪️Revised composition: SLR–1, GS–2, SL–5, PANTRY–1, 3E–3, 3A–6, 2A–2, 1A–1, EOG–1 with effect from 14 September 2024 Ex. CSMT.
Tue Jul 30, 2024 (11:17AM)
Revised composition: SLR–1, GS–2, SL–5, PANTRY–1, 3E–3, 3A–6, 2A–2, 1A–1, EOG–1 with effect from 14 September 2024 Ex. CSMT.
Sun Jun 09, 2024 (05:19PM)
🔹Due to Pre-NI & NI work at Mumbai CSMT & YARD for Extension of Platform 10 & 11 & for provision of Electronic Interlocking, Train no. 12809/Mumbai CSMT - Howrah Mail (Via Nagpur) (PT) JCO 01/06/2024 will be partially cancelled between Mumbai CSMT - Dadar, thereby short originating from Dadar Ctrl.
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May 15, 2024 (10:46AM)
12809 CSMT-HWH MAIL JCO on 24/12/2023 is rescheduled at 00:25 HRS on 25/12/2023 due to connecting train arriving late.
Sun Dec 24, 2023 (05:16PM)
▪️ Departure from CSMT on 22.09.23 is cancelled
Thu Sep 21, 2023 (09:23PM)
▪️ Departure from CSMT on 20.09.23 which was earlier announced as diverted will run in its normal path
Thu Sep 21, 2023 (09:39AM)
▪️ Departure from CSMT on 19.09.23 is cancelled
Mon Sep 18, 2023 (09:51PM)
▪️ Departure from 12.08.23 will be short terminated at Santragachi
Wed Aug 09, 2023 (07:33PM)
▪️ Departure from CSMT on 26.07.23 will be diverted via Raipur - Titlagarh - Jharsuguda
Thu Jul 27, 2023 (07:51PM)
Will have a stoppage at Belpahar w.e.f. 15.07.2023 until further advice
Thu Jul 13, 2023 (07:55PM)
▪️ Rescheduled to leave CSMT at 06.00 hrs on 07.07.23 instead of 21.10 hrs on 06.07.23
Thu Jul 06, 2023 (05:27PM)
▪️ Departure from CSMT on 08.05.23 will be diverted via Sarona - Ukura
Fri May 05, 2023 (01:22AM)
Cancelled on 08/04/23, 09/04/23 and 10/04/23.
Sat Apr 08, 2023 (05:21PM)
JCO 07/04/23 and 08/04/23 are Cancelled.
Fri Apr 07, 2023 (02:34PM)
JCO 06.04.2023 & 07.04.2023 is cancelled
Fri Apr 07, 2023 (02:29PM)
JCO 04.04.2023 is diverted via Tatanagar-Chandil-Purulia-Bokaro Steel City-Talgaria-Adra-Medinipur-Kharagpur. . Train departing CSMT on 06/04/23 is Cancelled.
Wed Apr 05, 2023 (06:26PM)
JCO 04.04.2023 is diverted via Tatanagar-Chandil-Purulia-Bokaro Steel City-Talgaria-Adra-Medinipur-Kharagpur
Wed Apr 05, 2023 (12:04PM)
Trains will leave from Dadar o­n 20.11.2022 (Cancelled Between CSMT & Dadar).
Fri Nov 11, 2022 (02:45PM)
▪️ Departure from CSMT on 14.11.22 & 15.11.22 will be diverted via Raipur - Lakholi - Titlagarh - Sambalpur - Jharsuguda
Fri Nov 11, 2022 (02:11AM)
▪️ Departure from CSMT from 21.09.22 - 28.09.22 is cancelled
Wed Sep 21, 2022 (09:07PM)
▪️ Departure from CSMT from 30.08.22 - 04.09.22 is cancelled.
Wed Aug 31, 2022 (12:00AM)
JOC cancelled from 08.08.2022 to 13.08.2022
Sat Aug 06, 2022 (09:44AM)
▪️ Restoration of Unreserved Booking in this Train will start W.E.F 29/06/2022
Fri Jun 10, 2022 (03:28PM)
📢⚟ 12809 (CSMT-HWH) JCO 27-03-22 NOW IN Raipur DIVN TO BE DIVERTED VIA Lakholi - Titlagarh - Sambalpur - Jharsuguda.
Mon Mar 28, 2022 (09:40PM)
AC 3 Economy will be available from 20/03/2022. Bookings have Started.
Mon Feb 21, 2022 (02:56PM)
AC 3 Economy will be available from 03/06/2022. Bookings will commence shortly.
Mon Feb 07, 2022 (09:06AM)
28.12.2021 को रद्द है
Thu Dec 23, 2021 (10:37AM)
JCO 07.12.2021 fully cancelled
Fri Dec 03, 2021 (09:14AM)
02809 CSMT (Mumbai) - Howrah Special which left Mumbai on 20.09.2021 will be short terminated at Santragachi
Tue Sep 21, 2021 (10:06PM)
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Today (12:03)   12810/Howrah - Mumbai CSMT Mail (Via Nagpur) (PT)
Gyanendra~
Gyanendra~   405 blog posts
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The railway lines in some sections are not fit for high speed running of trains. I can't say how they have been cleared for high speed runs. I haven't travelled through many routes. But I have travelled through few routes. Like from Kharagpur to Tatanagar by Janshatabdi at speeds of 120 kmph. Trains in this section run so smooth that you can't know the speed until you check it by speedometer. But while travelling in some sections like between Garhwa Road and Mugasarai, by Rajdhani Express at 130 kmph, it is so rough travel that the coach is constantly bouncing in all direction violently, up - down, left - right, that few times I was literally thrown off my berth and was prevented from falling down by the side chains which hold the berth. Once I also was thrown upwards and my head hit the wall. It felt so surprising how...
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the wheels of the train are still on the tracks, when the coach itself is bouncing so violently. But all the rest people had no concern at all, sleeping in peace. The tracks of such routes should be repaired and until repair is done, maximum permissible speed of the trains should be reduced.

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Jul 30 (07:31)   12810/Howrah - Mumbai CSMT Mail (Via Nagpur) (PT) | BRM/Barabambo (2 PFs)
Rail12345
Rail12345   2446 blog posts
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Another Accident. Another Derailment. Mumbai mail via Nagpur derailed.
9Th derailment within 2 weeks. RM is still sitting in his chair shame.
IR total system is been collapsed by this govt intentionally just to SELL oneday to private makng services worst.
By stopping separate railway budget, money is looted in last 5 yrs and work is not done on ground, resulting
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in poor maintainance daily accidents, poor punctuality of trains, speed reduction of trains, dirty toilets of trains, etc.
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Jul 30 (11:28)
ShikariShambuJr~
ShikariShambuJr~   2685 blog posts
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Aur bhi hai.Boisar mai bhi derailment hua tha
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Jul 30 (12:32)
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Jul 30 (22:03)
Rail12345
Rail12345   2446 blog posts
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Some more pics of this accident today. 2 persons Died and 8 persons got injured as per official news.
As per ground reports ( not confirmed) around 10 persons r still missing.
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Today (07:13)
Rail12345
Rail12345   2446 blog posts
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RM still talking about bullet trains in parliament. Pehle in trains ka safety toh theek karo fir bullet train. Looking at the conditions of bridges nowadays in bihar, gujrat, et God know what will happen to bullet trains. Even Ayodhya temple and new parliament house is leaking within 1 yr of construction. Atal sethu is uffff.
God knows if bullet train derails what will happen...... It is really scary now to travel in trains.
Government should spend the bullet train money in developing infrastructure and safety in regular trains first
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on immediate basis. Freight wagons maintainance should be increased, vacant post should be immediately filled, additional lines should be constructed as soon as possible wherever land is available with IR.

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deepak.yerr~   6448 blog posts
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If you feel scary then no one is forcing you to travel in trains please feel free to travel by road. Bullet trains is a separate project and don't link to traditional Railway system.
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Jul 30 (09:30)   12810/Howrah - Mumbai CSMT Mail (Via Nagpur) (PT)
 
thedemigod
thedemigod   241 blog posts
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So a new day starts with another derailment. Another day of lost lives for no apparent reason. Seems like the government doesn't care a bit about people's lives. Incompetence at its peak. A new accident every second day, it is crucial to mention that most of the zones are delaying trains in the name of maintenance. Gods know what maintenance they're doing.

Be it a train moving at 130kmph or 70kmph or even a stationary train, nothing is safe nowadays. People booking a train are not even sure if they'll safely reach
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their destination. Where is the RM? He forgot to do his usual on-camera drama after the Gonda accident. I doubt he'll bother even saying anything about the incident, let alone take any responsibility.

Mission Raftar on papers with massive slowdowns and undue extensions. ZBTT, with a plethora of political halts, even Rajdhanis, aren't spared. Shabbily maintained coaches and unpalatable food on premium trains. Long hours of delays and a string of accidents. The 'Amrit Kaal' of Indian Railways.

Our government doesn't care about human lives, that's evident. But they care about the capital gains, evident by their love of freight trains and the recent tax terrorism. These accidents damage multiple rakes, what about all the money going down the drain. No one seems to answer. RM won't take responsibility, the government as a whole will deny it's responsibility to it's citizens.

This will keep happening because we, as the citizens, have no conscience left. On a forum related to railways, people keep defending their masters with whatever means they find. Instead of asking the right questions, they keep calling it as conspiracy. Some great people even start asking what happened in the last 67 years. Until people will speak the language of politicians and be their puppets, this will continue.

And everyone will be happy with the third worldly services and no security of life, because 'Bharat me sab chalta hai'. The golden period of Indian Railways.

Image taken from X/ANI.

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Jul 30 (22:32)
Mahaveer Jain^~   11651 blog posts
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Goyal sir was far better of all namo brigade,
Spending billions of rs on "beautification,station renovation, airport like amenities Shamming,changing station names," blah blah etc.,
Same cud have spent for actual saving of hundreds of lives
No accountability from Rm,any beaurocrat,
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Jul 30 (22:54)
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The consequences of privatization can be two kinds - Japan, one of the best railways in the world. The other, US or Canada, where road, oil and freight lobbies influence the growth of railways so much that passenger trains and services are given lesser priorities. I would suggest a system where tracks and operations are in control of Indian railways while private and govt services can be run together on the same tracks. Would reduce the burden of govt to maintain only tracks, track maintenance and operations while loco pilots, food , cleaning can come under private control. But the main point I want to make it, we have to tread very carefully to not let Indian railways become the second kind.
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Jul 31 (01:42)
DrAbhijay2407
DrAbhijay2407   649 blog posts
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I agree . Privatisation has its pros and cons , which vary from one sector to another . With respect to IR,
Privatisation of non- critical aspects is fine (albeit with monitoring by the railways).
However, Critical/core/ fundamental aspects concerned with operations, safety, maintenance should remain with the Government.
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Jul 31 (04:49)
Aao_Haveli_Pe~
Aao_Haveli_Pe~   123 blog posts
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Kuchh chezon par mai dhyaan lana chahta hun, Causes of derailment.
1) Packing of tracks...Without proper packing trains ate running at 130kmph in some sections like pnbe-ddu...i am a electrical engineer by degree and technisian in railway signal department as profession. Mai koi baklol aadmi nahi hun..besak mai signal me hun par railway ke sabhi department ki achhi khassi jankari rakhta hun..
Train heavely shakes in up line between ara-bxr ..i was travelling from 13201 in newly build 3ac coach..Coach shakes heavily, i was unable to sleep even i like sleeping in trains...2,3
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times jerk near Twininganj is so bad that i was thrown off my side lower seat..i know very well the difference between jerk and floating of coaches.. floating do not cause derailment but jerk can...i bet sone serious accident is waiting in pnbe-ddu if packing not done.
2) Bad bogies of freight trains especially boxn..i always watch the bogies and axles of freights carefully when it passes from me..i have seen heavily shaking axles irrespective of calm bogies...there is horizontal motion between bogie and axles, which should not be there...vertical motion is ok but not horizontal... horizontal motion represent faulty or heavily worn roller bearings...approx 20 out of 60 coaches in every boxn freight are bad, that is only surving due to wheel flange and good tracks or who knows that god is protecting...i have even seen parallel race of freight with my 13202 for about 10km...looked every faulty axles, thats insane...it can derail someday somwhere.
3) Irresponsible Officers...as we know railway is facing super lack of staff..Staffs are there in every department but numbers are only sufficient to do maintenance only nothing else..you expect them to do special work 3 days a week and think that it has no any effect on maintenance then you have no brain...these days are so hot, that you cannot work for 3,4 hours continuously in sun..you think that they will cut grass in station or block section and after 4 hours they will do maintenance of tracks, then you are wrong...we are not machines....these days i have seen 50's of group D staffs are busy in cutting grass daily..due to huge moist environment, grass came back again in 7-10 days...then again they start cutting. Instead of this you should have provided herbicide and spray machine and depute only 3,4 staff...they will do work of 50 people easily...grass will not come back again for 30 days minimum.
4) work load and duty period....Simple human are not machines... machine can even fail after proper maintenance then human can also fail...sone human failure led to disaster like SPAD.

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Jul 31 (07:23)
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Harsha_12627^~   6159 blog posts
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Blog Entry Archived.
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Yesterday (10:48)   12810/Howrah - Mumbai CSMT Mail (Via Nagpur) (PT)
Gyanendra~
Gyanendra~   405 blog posts
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India should introduce guard rails, so that in case any derailment occurs, until the train comes to a stop, the movement of trains out the track area can be prevented to some extent.
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Yesterday (11:25)
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arindamdas~   1005 blog posts
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Ok but...
First they must ensure primary maintenance of Wagon Rakes like Passenger trains.
Specially wagon rakes under GPWIS (general purpose wagon investment scheme) which are plying just like dumpers/trucks in colliery or iron ore mines leaving no or minimum scope of maintenance thereby causing derailments of wagon nation wide.
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Jul 30 (22:31)   12810/Howrah - Mumbai CSMT Mail (Via Nagpur) (PT)
Rail12345
Rail12345   2446 blog posts
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The List of accidents ( Derailments/Collisions) in IR in just 2 months ( 1.6.24 - 31.07.24) under RM Ashwini Vaishnav :
1. 30.7.24-Jharkhand -BRM
2. 30.7.24-Orissa - SLRA
3. 29.7.24- Orissa- MCS
4. 28.7.24-
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WB -PKU
5. 27.7.24-Maharashtra-BOR
6. 26.7.24-Orissa -BBS
7. 21.7.24-WB -RHA
8. 21.7.24-Rajasthan-AWR
9. 20.7.24-UP-AMRO
10. 20.7.24-Gujrat-BL
11. 18.7.24- UP - गोंडा
12. 02.7.24-WB-GKL
13. 30.6.24-UP-PRYJ
14. 17.6.24-WB-Siliguri
15. 02.6.24-Punjab-Madhopur
16. 31.07.24 -WB -RNI

Apart from these there r few minor accidents( Fire/Minor collisions) within this 2 months (1.6.24 - 30.7.24)listed below:
1. 14.7.24-WB-KDH
2. 23.6.24-WB-BALT

Screenshots of all these accidents are available in my posts as well as in news internet.
RM NEEDS BHARAT RATNA AWARD FOR HIS WORK. Our Accident Specialist Railway Minister

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Jul 30 (22:56)
sanket4013   3186 blog posts
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Sr.no.10
BL is in Gujrat
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Jul 30 (23:01)
Rail12345
Rail12345   2446 blog posts
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Updated. Thanks
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Jul 30 (23:07)
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Add another list like how many VB’s were introduced in between these tragedies
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Jul 31 (23:21)
Rail12345
Rail12345   2446 blog posts
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One more accident todau 31.7.24 @RNI added
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